It's official: With President Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Charlotte Thursday night, both the Republicans and Democrats have formally chosen their nominees for the 2012 presidential election. Let the real race begin.
A lot can change between now and Nov. 6: Gaffes, scandals or even major international news events could shift the dynamics of the campaign.
The latest Gallup Polls show registered voters preferring Obama to Mitt Romney by just one percentage point, 47 percent to 46 percent. A USA Today/Gallup poll taken just before the party conventions found American voters think Obama is more likeable, but trust Romney more to handle the economy.
Pundits have been busy for months handicapping the major-party candidates on various factors: incumbent advantage, fundraising clout, even religion.
Patch wants to know: Regardless of who you support for President, who do you think will actually claim victory in November?
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http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/
Amonix Solar - your source says "Amonix received $6 million in federal tax credits for the North Las Vegas plant and a $15.6 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy in 2007 for research and development." Obama took office when? Oh, yeah - 2009 Solar Trust - did Chapter 11, and because its foreign majority owner filed bankruptcy in its country; as your source says - "filed for bankruptcy protection after its majority owner began insolvency proceedings in Germany." But you blame Obama. Bright Source: your source says it was part of the Chapter 11 liquidation of Solar Trust (see above) ... and Obama had what to do with that? Your source doesn't verify one word of your claim, or even mention it. LSP Energy - been around since '96; filed Ch. 11 because one of its three generators broke, and it needed to liquidate to fund replacement. Your source says it had $214.85 million in debt; this one (http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/fb85347ff9484d01bb2233f656c13882/MS--LSP-Energy-Bankruptcy) says it just sold for $286 million. that's 33.1% profit. And you say Obama has "fault" in this, though, which is yet another one of your cites that has nothing to do with fed gov period, let alone Obama
Stats are from IRS.gov and reflect only indviduals who are reporting income. Does not reflect anyone who is a child or not in the work force. 2009 is the most recent data provided by IRS at this time. Sad but true 50% of americans don't pay federal income tax.
Abound Solar - it received $400 million in 2010 - paid back all but $70 million in less than two years. Has liquid capital of $136.1 million, so that's ....IN-THE-CLEAR! http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2012/09/11/bankrupt-abound-solars-equipment-to.html?page=all But you say Obama's grant (which was done by DoE, not Obama) is a loss??? Sun Power - has since regained (by 24.2%, in fact)....and not once missed on paying its loan. Beacon - still owed 39.1 mil at time of liquidation, had liquid assets over $72 mil .... LOAN PAID http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-31/beacon-power-backed-by-u-s-loan-guarantees-files-bankruptcy.html ECOtality - the new company took in $115 mil in DoE loans, alright; and quickly got contracts that produced $230 mil http://www.ecotality.com/featured/ev-project/ - now has a new contract with VW, too A123 - your source lists a drop in its stock value; 10 days later, it was up 20% http://www.streetinsider.com/Insiders+Blog/A123+Systems+(AONE)+Rips+Higher+Following+New+Energy+Storage+System+Contract/7593705.html filed for bankruptcy? nope UniSolar - your source says it got money when it opened in 2006 ... doesn't mention Obama or DoE - and it's losing to China http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/06/uni-solar-energy-economy-greenville-biello
Evergreen - RECEIVED NO FUNDS FROM US DoE - please cite some source for this "$527 million from Obama" claim, because your own source doesn't say that. Ener1 - you claim it received "more than a $100 million" - but your source says the company only got $55 million. And let's go over what Chapter 11 is again - payment arrangements for full debt without liquidation. It's not Chapter 7 (which you are hoping everyone else will assume).
re: Source. http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/ you cudda saved some ink by just posting the above source...but guess you were thinking, 'if i throw enough stuff at the wall some will stick...' some prespective 'It is said that up to 50% of businesses fail within five years of inception. http://www.businesspundit.com/the-25-worst-business-failures-in-history/ not sure one can/should call all energy company failures 'BO's blunders'...BTW anyone know what tax breaks for big oil cost, ie, adds to the deficit...bet cost of so called 'BO blunders' pale by comparison to what might be called 'GOP blunders'...also, what do oil spills, due to lax regulations, cost the economy/envirorement...can these be called GOP blunders...also/BTW/and; can 1929 and 2008 be called GOP blunders...seems 'BO blunders' become paler and paler by comparision.
And one crucial piece of advice: consider your primary source on all of these. "Divided States" is a scam site - doesn't even list who owns/operates it. (The owner is one Jonathan Cooper with office on 5th Ave in NYC, though.....and the company he pays to host that site is Canadian! How hypocritical of him, dontcha think?)
...true 50% of americans don't pay federal income tax... and what is the point...assume they followed same IRS rules/regs as mitt and other 1%-ers...they came up with a 0% rate and mitt came up with a 15% rate. is anyone saying the rules should be changed for the 50% (whatever) and not for the 1%...
Did you know in many states you can get solar power at a fixed monthly rate far lower than you pay a legacy power provider? Sort of shoots the whole "solar industry which has NEVER proven to produce a single working product. Like Socialism, no evidence ot works" regressive talking point from your biased source right in the face.
As I read a little of the supporting document, I would revise the reported 49.5% of *people* paying no taxes at all. The report indicated that the lowest quintile (assuming one fifth equal 20%) of *household*incomes pays 0.3%. This I found in the summary on page 4. See the notes on the Definition page for an explanation of a household, before tax income, and taxes as the chart compares the two latter. Does the 49.5% report include all members of those households? Stated another way, does the lowest 20% of taxpaying households contain half the population of the US? I think something is wrong with the 49.5% number or the two are comparing apples to oranges. Data is only available thru 2009. Supplemental reports indicate that the gap is widening in 2010 and 2011. Also found on page 4.
My assessment is Romney’s plan is to heap more on the red bar on the highest quintile of households while granting reprieve on capital gains vs. Obama’s plan to return to 1990’s taxation rates starting at $250,000.00 to distribute the tax burden on a portion of households in the other quintiles maybe just the 4th. Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center indicates that a single person household would make the top 20 at a $74,000 per year salary, $104,000 for a two person, and $148,000 for a four person?? Is this where child labor becomes an issue? (sarcasm).
"Founded in 1989, Valence develops lithium iron magnesium phosphate rechargeable batteries, according to its website. Its products are used in hybrid and electric vehicles, as well as hybrid boats and Segway personal transporters." http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-12/valence-technology-battery-maker-files-bankruptcy.html
'...absolutely nothing to do with the president or the DoE funds' SOP for some PATCH posters... irrelavent cherry picking aside...it is difficult to evaluate 'DOE loan program'...the following CLIP seems reasonable: [CLIP] An independent review of the DOE loan program [enguy's bo blunders], headed by former Treasury official Herb Allison, also “failed to turn up the waste and incompetence that critics said riddled the programs,” the Los Angeles Times noted, though it did call for better oversight after companies are awarded contracts. The review also concluded the program could lose as much as $2.7 billion on loans to green-energy companies, but that was actually less than the $10 billion anticipated by Congress... The Allison report was criticized by some Republicans as incomplete, particularly since the panel did not evaluate Solyndra [so add $500M to $2.7B] as part of its review. [end clip] http://factcheck.org/2012/06/romneys-solar-flareout/
re: 'Yet another sample [of misc bankuptcies]' just wondering if people know the difference between bankruptcies in general and the relative few with DOEn loans... if they know the difference, why do they purposely mislead... never mind i know...
They're up to his necks in The Lying Game. What they say is all part of the larger GOP strategy. Believe me, Ryan "takes direction" in order to "stay on" the Republican message. He must "sing the GOP song" to be a GOP candidate. All across the nation, millionaires are backing these liars. They want full control in order to create the final divide between rich and poor. "Us and them". Their misjudgment? A lot of that 47% they despise is part of working America; students working their way through college, single moms restarting their lives with their first job since high school and truly poor mothers, working while the kids are at school, just to buy fuel oil for this winter and food for the day. These are proud Americans. Romney has just stolen their pride, their will power and more...their dignity. Men like Romney, Ryan and Republican candidates for Congress have no place in the seats of government (at any level) making decisions for "all Americans". They only have experience with the "jet set" and their "country club" members. That's okay, if you're running for Prom Queen, but the responsibilities here are far reaching and their vision does not include all Americans, as we've just found out.
Who do you think will win the 2012 U.S. presidential election? Mitt Romney 282 (50%) Barack Obama 267 (48%)
I bet a lot of that 47% are "bitter clingers" or maybe even catholics who feel like their religious freedom was trampled on recently. Just remember, the question was who do you think will win, not who are you voting for.
Lucky me, I get to burn my vote on Gary Johnson.
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Mitt Romney 282 (50%); Barack Obama 267 (48% this should terrify the GOP that these are the results from SC [josch] if jim crow voterID laws are ruled unconstitutional...BO will win SC...and; renew faith in my beloved SC...and my 'kingdom by the sea'...summerville.
I rarely get involved in "party politics". That is GOP/DEM battles . I try to stay based on ideology, but I agree with you. It is about time we get the white southern democrat Jim Crow laws off of the books for good
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